Round Plate Edit window
( Modeling > F2 > " 
Misc steel " > " Round Plate ")
Selecting " Round Plate " as the " Miscellaneous steel " type adds a custom member with round plate material to a 3D model.
The Round Plate custom member is a superior alternative to " Miscellaneous -- Round Plate ." The edit window of this member features material and member options on the same window.
Its " General settings " include " Break apart " and " Rotation " which are not available for the legacy miscellaneous member.
Member operations such as many of those found on the Model > Member menu in Modeling can be performed on this member, and you can add custom components to it.
The " OK " button is disabled (grayed out) to indicate a validation error. Hover the " OK " button with your mouse pointer to get a listing of settings you need to change on this window. When all settings are valid, the " OK " button is enabled.
Also see :
- Plates (topic)
- Miscellaneous member types (the complete list)
- Custom members (a round plate miscellaneous member is a custom member)
- Round Plate Material (window can set Round Plate Edit's " Main Material " to ' USER ')
- Miscellaneous members versus legacy miscellaneous members (topic)
- Surfaces Connection (a custom component you can add to a miscellaneous member)
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Add round plate :
1 . A round plate miscellaneous member can be properly located and rotated even in an isometric view. Before adding the member, be aware of the following:
2 . To add a round plate miscellaneous member (in Modeling ):
Alternative 1 : Press F2 > check the box for "
Alternative 2 : Choose Model > Member > Prompt for Member Type > check the box for "
3 . Locate - Repeat - Return mouse bindings become active, and you are prompted to locate the round plate's work points. Two work points, which define the plate's radius, are required to lay out a round plate.
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3a : Select the appropriate Locate option.
3b : Left-click ( Locate ) to enter the first work point. This point locates the radius's vertex and establishes the plate material's origin reference point .
3c : Left-click ( Locate ) to enter the second work point, which defines the length of its outside radius. The second point also defines the right end of the member line , which extends through the plate's diameter. The left end of the member is at the opposite end of this member line. The second work point you enter when you add the round plate and the point at the left end are represented as exact points after step 4, when the member is actually generated in the model.
The first point that you locate is identified by an origin symbol . The following illustration shows the difference between locating the two points from left to right versus right to left.
If you Model > Member > Isolate > ... a round plate miscellaneous member, you will find that the member's MAIN VIEW shows the member's origin symbol (
) to be to your left. This is true for any miscellaneous member -- even if the origin symbol for the member is to your right in a plan view. The MAIN VIEW in member isolation directly correlates to the main view of the miscellaneous member's detail.
Best practice when adding a miscellaneous member in a plan view is to input the member from left to right or from bottom to top. That way, when you add a grid line from left to right, the near side of the member, as determined by the location of its left end , will be the side looking toward the bottom or toward the right of the screen.
4 . The Round Plate Edit window opens. On it are settings for the round plate that you are adding.
4a : Choose entries for the plate's " Thickness reference point " and " Checkered " options. Be sure to also define the " Material thickness ."
4b : Press the " OK " button at the bottom of the window to apply your settings and close this window.
Note: The default settings on this window are those of the last round plate miscellaneous member added or edited in this session of Modeling . Even if all you do is double-click a round plate member and press " OK " on its edit window, its settings become the defaults for the next-added round plate miscellaneous member. You therefore only need to make changes to those settings which are different for this member.
5 . If User and Site Options > Modeling > " Process after modeling operation " is ' Process and create solids ', the new plate will have automatically undergone all phases of Process and Create Solids and will show up in a solid form . If that option is ' Process ' or ' Do nothing ', then the member line of the round plate you just added shows up on screen in stick form , and you will have to Process > Process and Create Solids in order to have the member piecemarked and able to be displayed in a solid form. Do one (1) of the following:
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Alternative 1 : Move the mouse pointer (
) and middle-click ( Repeat ) to lay out a round plate just like the last one beginning at the point where the point location target (
) is at. The X, Y global axes location of the repeated plate will begin from the located repeat point (where the target is at). The plate's Z location and other settings will be that of the last-added or last-edited round plate.
Alternative 2 : Follow these instructions beginning with step 3 to add a round plate with different settings than the one you just laid out.
Alternative 3 : Right-click ( Return ) if you are done adding round plate.
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------ Round plate ------
Material thickness: The thickness of this round plate (in the primary dimension " Units " or other units or the gage ). The thickness of a " Checkered " round plate is measured exclusive of its raised pattern. The thickness of a round plate is its dimension along its Z member axis , which projects from the round plate's work plane per the round plate's " Thickness reference point ."
To enter gage plate: Type the ' gage number' followed by ' ga ' (example: ' 4ga ' is rewritten as ' 4GA ' when you Tab out of the field). Right-click tells you the stored thickness (based on industry standards), from which the weight of the gage plate is calculated. Allowable gages are any whole number from 3 to 38 . You can also enter an exact decimal thickness to get the gage (example: ' .1345 ' becomes ' 10GA ' when you Tab out of the field). The " Description " for a gage plate follows the format: ' plate prefix ' + ' numberGA ' + ' x ' + ' diameter ' (example: RPL16GAx15 1/2 ).
Thickness precision : You can enter a plate " Material thickness " that is more precise than the " Dimension precision " that is set at Home > Project Settings > Fabricator > Detailing > Drawing Presentaton . For example, if you enter ' 5/32 ' and the " Dimension precision " is ' 1/16 ', the thickness of the plate will be ' 5/32 '. The thickness you enter is reflected in the " Description " and will propagate to the bill of material, reports, etc. The setup option to " Round flat plate values " does not affect this. Be aware that the Ruler measures to whatever the " Dimension precision " is set to, which means that the plate's measured thickness may not exactly match its actual thickness.
The following can be used to track the choice made here when " Main material " is ' SYSTEM ':
Status Display: Material status > Material plate thickness
Report Writer: XXXXX . Thickness
Advanced Selection: Thickness
Steel grade: A36 or A572 or etc. This is the grade of steel for the round plate whose settings are defined on this window.
Setup: If the steel grade you want is not on the list box (
) for this field, you can use Home > Project Settings > Job > Plate Grades to add it to the list.
Tip: Changing the " Steel grade " does not cause the plate to be regenerated. This means that, if you change this setting only, material operations such as a Cut Layout may, optionally, be preserved.
The following can be used to track the choice made here when " Main material " is ' SYSTEM ':
Report Writer: MemberMaterial.Material.SubMaterial.MaterialGradeDescription
Advanced Selection: MaterialGrade
Thickness reference point: FS or Center or NS . ' NS ' stands for near side, ' FS ' for far side.
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| A section view of the same round plate , but with different depth reference points. The view looks perpendicular to the plan view (at 100 ft) in which the round plate was added. |
Select ' NS ' if you want the plate's near side at the elevation of its work points. When the bar was added in a plan view at the default " Rotation " (' -90 '), the near side is the face of the plate that you are looking at when you are in that view and when the bar was not subsequently rotated.
Select ' FS ' if you want the plate's far side at the elevation of its work points. The far side is the face that is away from when you are in the view in which the bar was added, assuming the plate was added in a plan view at the default " Rotation " (' -90 ') and was not subsequently rotated.
Select ' Center ' if you are adding this plate in a plan view and you want it centered at the elevation of the plan view you are adding it in.
Piecemarking: Two round plates, each with a different " Thickness reference point ," may have the same submaterial piecemark. The two materials will have different submaterial mark index numbers .
Note: This option does not change a plate's reference elevation. You can change a round plate's " Reference elevation " using the General Information window.
The following can reveal the choice made here when " Main material " is ' SYSTEM ':
Advanced Selection: MaterialOriginPoint
If this box is checked (
If the box is not checked (
), the round plate is considered to have a smooth near-side surface.
The following can track the choice made here when " Main material " is ' SYSTEM ':
Report Writer: XXXXX . CheckeredPlatePattern
Advanced Selection: CheckeredPlatePattern
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End elevation: The elevation (in the primary dimension " Units " or other units ) of the work point at this end of the round plate. For a non-sloping section, both the left and right end elevations are the same. When you add the plate, its work points are placed in your current view's reference elevation until you change their elevations here, on this window. Work points are aligned with the diameter of the round plate.
| A round plate has three exact points . You can reset the elevation of the two at the ends of its member line by changing the member's left- and/or right-end " End elevation ." |
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To determine the end elevation on a round plate in the 3D model, use Construction Line Add or a similar tool, select EXPT as the Locate option, then snap the point location target to the work point at the end of the plate. The Z coordinate reported in the X-Y-Z display tells you the elevation at the snapped-to exact point.
Tip: You should use this option instead of rotating a round plate member's material to change its left- or right-end elevation. For complex situations, you can Model > Member > Move/Stretch one or the other of its end points.
Standard detail: None or a standard detail name . To apply a standard detail, you can type in the file name of the drawing (if you know it), or press the "file cabinet" browse button ( 
) and double-click any job standard detail or global standard detail that is on the list.
If ' none ' is entered here, then no standard detail will be applied on this end of the miscellaneous member when it is automatically detailed .
If a ' standard detail name ' is entered here, the next time you auto detail this miscellaneous member, the reference point of the standard detail will align with the input work point on this end of the member, and the standard detail's bill of material will be combined with the member's bill of material. The detail is placed on a layer that is named after the standard detail plus a "_L" or "_R" suffix.